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'57 Thunderbird FE/AOD Transplant

 
Tbird-dg
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Posted: 12/06/10 08:52 AM

Making a little progress. When I attempted to install the drive shaft, the trans yoke/U-joint interfered with the frame X-member(I probably made a note of this interference on a long lost "To Do List" from the test fit last summer), fabricated a spacer out of 3/8"x 2" aluminum, adjusted the shift rod (which had mysteriously changed shape since I had set it perfectly in Sept.), and installed the speedometer cable. Tired of working under the car so moved to the top.

Trimmed the Lokar throttle cable and did fine adjustment so the carb butterflies open all the way. Filled the oil pan with Brad Penn 10w40 semi-synthetic. This oil is formulated with adequate ZDDP for ancient flat tappet engines.

It's a long humbling process...  
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Tbird-dg - Thunderbird Heretic

'71 Ranchero, 351C, T5, daily driver
'57 Thunderbird, 462ci FE, AOD!

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MustangMan
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Posted: 12/08/10 08:15 AM

Sorry I haven't checked in sooner. I was out of the office Fri and Mon/Tues working on our '68 fastback project. It sounds like you're so close you can taste it! Great job on the build and the determination to see it through. Lesser people would have shipped it off to a shop and wrote a check, shoved it out to the curb in disgust with a for sale sign on it, or lit a match and tossed it in the interior! LOL

Good on you!
Mark  
Mark Houlahan
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1965 FFR Roadster 427W/TKO-600 5-speed
1966 Mustang 289-4V/C4 Auto
1968 Mustang 4.6L Three-Valve/5R55S Auto
1990 Mustang 306/AOD
2002 Explorer Sport Trac 4.0L V-6/5R55 Auto
2005 F-150 4x2 4.2L V-6/4R70W Auto

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gford
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Posted: 12/08/10 12:14 PM

The stock pan and pick up etc. from an E250 van has a rear sump and fits fine  

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Tbird-dg
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Posted: 12/08/10 01:04 PM

Thanks Mark,
I appreciate your input and this forum. I'm thinking it may be in the muffler shop Saturday, in time for a Ford Club Holiday Brunch on Sunday...been wrong before. I enjoy the process even with all the whining. The wife, 3 kids and 3 grandkids are not so patiently waiting for rides when it hits road. Grandpa's "car guy" credibility is on the line.  
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'71 Ranchero, 351C, T5, daily driver
'57 Thunderbird, 462ci FE, AOD!

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custom_vic56
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Posted: 12/20/10 09:02 AM

gford,  what motor mounts did you use? I want to put a 302 in a 57 T-bird. Its using a c-4 tranny.  

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Tbird-dg
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Posted: 12/29/10 10:06 AM

Had a great Holiday but time to get this project fired up. Electric fuel pump is plumbed in, starter cable from solenoid to starter is replaced (53 year old insulation was falling off). Need to hookup the trans cooler lines to the trans to be done under the car.  
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Tbird-dg - Thunderbird Heretic

'71 Ranchero, 351C, T5, daily driver
'57 Thunderbird, 462ci FE, AOD!

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Birdzilla
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Posted: 01/04/11 09:47 AM

...through the process of adding a new email address to my account, I somehow deleted my account info. I'm Birdzilla now instead of Birdman. Sorry about that.

Now I can get on with wiring up the controller for the Mark VIII fan.  
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'71, Ranchero, 351C, T5, daily driver
'57 Thunderbird, 462ci FE, AOD...finally.

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Tbird-dg
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Posted: 01/06/11 07:11 PM

Fuel to the carb, dipstick installed, trans cooler lines hooked at both ends and wired the trans cooler fan. The aroma of stale premium unleaded emanates from the garage but no exhaust fumes yet...

Oh!.. and I'm back to Tbird-dg. Thanks Mark and Greg for recovering my account.  
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'71 Ranchero, 351C, T5, daily driver
'57 Thunderbird, 462ci FE, AOD!

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Tbird-dg
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Posted: 01/07/11 08:03 PM

A few pictures of the transplant:

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Tbird-dg - Thunderbird Heretic

'71 Ranchero, 351C, T5, daily driver
'57 Thunderbird, 462ci FE, AOD!

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Tbird-dg
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Posted: 02/01/11 10:59 AM

It's been a while. Still plugging away. Latest challenge was B&M Hi-Tek trans cooler. The thermostat switch fitting on the cooler had a plug with a pig tail attached to it with a couple wires with butt joints attached. I was trying to figure out a way to test the thermostat switch 'cause there's a whole sequence of assembly that takes place after the trans cooler is buttoned up in front of the radiator. Trouble was the only thing holding the wires in the plug was a couple little doughnut rubbers to keep the water out of the plug. The clip/pin wasn't crimped to the wire on either side of the plug, just laying in there. Took them out crimped and soldered them so they aren't going anywhere. Glad I found this before it was all together and quit working. To say I'm disappointed in the quality of my parts would be an understatement.

Never did figure out how to effectively test the thermostat switch. I decided to wire an over ride switch for the fan for if the thermostat doesn't work.  
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Tbird-dg - Thunderbird Heretic

'71 Ranchero, 351C, T5, daily driver
'57 Thunderbird, 462ci FE, AOD!

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MustangMan
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Posted: 02/02/11 07:35 AM

Good idea. I've used some temperature activated switches in the past and had issues, so now I try to wire a manual override toggle that simply grounds the switch and turns the fan(s) on...

Keep at it!

Mark  
Mark Houlahan
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1965 FFR Roadster 427W/TKO-600 5-speed
1966 Mustang 289-4V/C4 Auto
1968 Mustang 4.6L Three-Valve/5R55S Auto
1990 Mustang 306/AOD
2002 Explorer Sport Trac 4.0L V-6/5R55 Auto
2005 F-150 4x2 4.2L V-6/4R70W Auto

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Tbird-dg
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Posted: 02/04/11 05:25 AM

Got some advice from a friend on testing the Thermostatic Switch, a pan of hot water, a multi-meter (Ohm setting), and a thermometer. The switch worked like a champ between 174-177 deg.

Got the trans cooler, cooler lines (Aeroquipt press on clampless went together great with a little trans fluid for lube and warming with a heat gun), and oil filter are checked off the "TO DO List". The car is off the jack stands, radiator installed, water pump glued on & torqued.  
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'71 Ranchero, 351C, T5, daily driver
'57 Thunderbird, 462ci FE, AOD!

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MustangMan
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Posted: 02/04/11 07:55 AM

I love those socketless push-on hose fittings. I used them in AN -6 for the fuel system on our Factory Five Roadster build. No poked fingers and blood from braided line ends! Smile

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Mark Houlahan
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Mustang Monthly Magazine

1965 FFR Roadster 427W/TKO-600 5-speed
1966 Mustang 289-4V/C4 Auto
1968 Mustang 4.6L Three-Valve/5R55S Auto
1990 Mustang 306/AOD
2002 Explorer Sport Trac 4.0L V-6/5R55 Auto
2005 F-150 4x2 4.2L V-6/4R70W Auto

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Tbird-dg
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Posted: 02/20/11 11:08 AM

The power steering pump and remote reservoir are the latest PITA. Fabricated a bracket out of a piece of scrap metal. Mounted it in front of the brake booster on the left inner fender. Mounted the reservoir on it , the tube from the reservoir & the tube on the pump it must connect to were way off. Trimmed the tubes and re flared them both. (They were 3/4” and my flaring tool only went to 1/2”, so had to rent one) Got a hydraulic hose that fit, stuffed a long spring in it  so the S shape path it needed to take wouldn’t kink it.  Looks like it might work. The high pressure hose I fabricated needs to be shortened so working on that today.    

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Tbird-dg - Thunderbird Heretic

'71 Ranchero, 351C, T5, daily driver
'57 Thunderbird, 462ci FE, AOD!

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Tbird-dg
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Posted: 02/22/11 03:45 PM

2/20/11, Celebrated a full year since I last drove the little 'bird.

The engine is finally plumbed enough to start (the Ford heater hose fitting was smaller than the Edelbrock RPM hole in the manifold so there is no hot water for the heater). All the belts on. Filled with coolant. Everything's fastened down that I can think of. I have the fire extinguisher handy.

I'm going to connect the electric fuel pump to see if the fuel system springs any leaks.

I have an unscheduled day off tomorrow. I think I can connect enough wires to see if it will fire up.  
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Tbird-dg - Thunderbird Heretic

'71 Ranchero, 351C, T5, daily driver
'57 Thunderbird, 462ci FE, AOD!

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