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Petdaw
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Posted: 10/04/13 03:01 AM

I have a GT-65 convertible here in Sweden. It´s imported from US 1999. The color of the car is silver smoke gray with black pony interior. But I don´t know if that´s correct. At the website early-mustang.com the warranty-plate number at my car exists. 5F08A804323 with trimcode 76A R D6 27U 22 1 1, which means Ivy green with white interior w black appointments. Can I trust that info? I have some information from a man in Texas (He is now 86 years old)who owned the car in the early 80th. He confirmed that the car was gray with black interior at that time. I have no info before 1980. My intention is to restore the car to original and I hope I can get some help here.  Confused  

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70bird
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Posted: 10/04/13 02:43 PM

if the door vin matches the fender apron vin your car was in fact green/white. even though the tags are reproduced no one in their right mind would make up a tag for a green/whiter car. it would be something desireable like blue or red or turquoise etc.  

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Petdaw
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Posted: 10/05/13 10:45 AM

The door vin shows 76B 4 66 27U 22 1 6, but that combination isn't correct for 1965. Maybe it's because the car is a late 65? And my problem is the website information from early-mustang.com. From where comes that information? I have info from 1980 and it says gray with black interior. 1966 the color code 4 is silver frost. I'm still confused.  Confused  

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jlg2002
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Posted: 10/10/13 12:47 PM

while I don't have an answer, the attached link shows the 65 colors and codes. A July car (27U) should still be a 65 model year:
http://averagejoerestoration.com/resources/mustang-and-ford-exterior-paint-colors/1965-ford-and-mustang-exterior-paint-colors/  

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jlg2002
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Posted: 10/10/13 12:48 PM

Try this link for a true color guide:

http://averagejoerestoration.com/resources/mustang-and-ford-exterior-paint-colors/1965-ford-and-mustang-exterior-paint-colors/  

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Petdaw
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Posted: 10/11/13 12:26 AM

Thanks for your answer. The problem is the information at www.early-mustang.com. That info makes me confused. And I don´t know if it´s correct info. I have a lot of mustangbooks with colorcodes and interior trim etc. that´s not the problem.  

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70bird
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Posted: 10/11/13 02:19 AM

mustangdecoder.com

4 or 4x is silver frost.  

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Petdaw
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Posted: 10/11/13 07:32 AM

Ok, but my question is, can I trust the info at www.early-mustang.com?
It says D6 (Ivy Green) or is that info not correct? Anyone who knows?
See link: http://www.early-mustang.com/userrunner/VINPlus_list.php?mastertable=VINPlus&masterkey1=5F08A804323
As far as I know, since 1980 the car is silver smoke with black interior.  

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jlg2002
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Posted: 10/14/13 12:22 PM

The color code is R. (not D6) D6 is the vinyl color. However, R is ivy green and D6 is white crinkle with black appointments. I see that 64 1/2  had a nice grey color called silversmoke grey (code is K) but it is very unlikey you have 64 1/2. does the car have a generator?

So you've mention that someone has changed your data plate to something entirely wrong - probably had a door change-out in its past. The sad fact is that unless you can come up with the history of this car, the delivery data is lost.  Sometimes they put paper build sheets in the cars but after looking up behind the dash somewhere in the wiring, you would have to pull carpets and seats out in order to look further.

Marti has the most records unfortunately they don't start until 1967.  

I have a 66 in a similar situation and just had to start over with what I wanted on the tag.

Good luck on your quest.  

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Petdaw
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Posted: 10/16/13 01:59 AM

Hi jlg2002! Thanks and of course the vinyl color is D6. The exterior color might be R (Ivy Green), but that´s information from early-mustang.com. Do you think that information is correct. Why is my car in that directory?  

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jlg2002
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Posted: 10/16/13 01:12 PM

Icon QuotePetdaw:
Hi jlg2002! Thanks and of course the vinyl color is D6. The exterior color might be R (Ivy Green), but that´s information from early-mustang.com. Do you think that information is correct. Why is my car in that directory?

I would question that directory until you could prove one way or the other. I personally put my own car's data in there and it allowed me to put anything I wanted in the tag info. That said, anything can be put in there and it may or may not be factual.  

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70bird
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Posted: 10/16/13 07:30 PM

i gave you the site to use.

this is your car door tag.

it must be an A code to be a gt.

Miscellaneous Vehicle Data
Body: 76A Convertible, Standard Interior
Color: R Ivy Green Metallic
Trim: D6 White Crinkle Vinyl with Black Appointments, Standard Interior
Date: 27U July 27, 1965
D.S.O: 22 Charlotte
Axle: 1 3.00:1, Conventional
Trans: 1 3-Speed Manual  

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Petdaw
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Posted: 10/17/13 01:41 AM

Yes I know, if the info from early-mustang.com is correct the docoder info is correct as well. That´s the mainproblem. Someone changed the doortag a few yars ago and now matching the gray color of the car.  

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70bird
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Posted: 10/17/13 05:19 PM

what is the real problem?

forget the door tag, forget the paint/interior codes and tell us exactly what you want.

how do you know the door tag is not orig.

that is the orig tag, no one would take a red car or other good color and paint it green then put a green door tag on it.

i'm totally confused.

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jlg2002
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Posted: 10/18/13 01:24 PM

70 Bird,
He has info from early-mustang.com that states his car is supposed to be per the tag he quoted. and this is not the tag on his car just in their database.

His question is that since the car looks nothing like that database code at early-mustang.com should he believe it for restoration purposes. Hence my comments to him.

Petdaw,
I meant to ask you: Is the warranty number on the present door tag the same as your actual VIN on the left front fender cutout?  

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